It's just unrealistic and a lot of time has passed since something horrible happened. Even if they do some great things later on in life, those controversies seem to dog them. The background to United supporters wrath is fairly well known. You can follow Straight off the Beach on Twitter @S_ot_B and on Facebook. Then, perhaps, we can go Marching On Together towards a better future, whatever the next few days, weeks and months might bring. BUILDING A FUTURE FOR PAGE 21 WOMEN IN CONSTRUCTION chroniclelive.co.uk, home of The Journal online Friday, October 1, 2021 1.30 COUNTY HOUSING FIGHT STEPPED UP page 2 eyes down for CENTRAL WALKWAY Page 5 T&Cs apply page 14 GRAEME WHITFIELD Business and Agenda Editor We Are Leeds. Originally presented as author's thesis: Doctor of Philosophy, University of Edinburgh, 2007. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Galatasaray (which, incidentally, won 2-0 in Istanbul), expects a hostile atmosphere inside Elland Road on Thursday. The colours of each football team's home shirts fittingly correspond to the respective rose representing their historic county Leeds with a white kit, resembling the Yorkshire rose and Manchester United with a red shirt, like the Lancashire rose. Lets get this done. Pool fans, great masters of violence! He's basically leaving because we don't want him, not because he wants to move above us. Just awh, who could hate them? Get yourself to that Premier League subs bench youll be occupying next season and stay there, counting your money. I was at the first match after the one in Istanbul (away at Villa), and I'll always remember the class and dignity the club showed on that day and during that period directly after the murders. But, as ever with these matters, itd likely be down to the player himself if there is a genuine interest from Turkey. Footballers dont do anything on their own beyond, in some more advanced cases, tying their own shoelaces. MOT. One way or another, further business looks likely that 5 shirt hasnt been left empty for nothing. The home side refused to wear black armbands, demonstrating utter and callous disrespect. Make us proud of you again, on this day above all others. Harry Kewell is reported to be making a return to English football as manager of League Two Crawley. The rivalry between Leeds United and Millwall is a bitter NorthSouth divide rivalry in English football. Millwall were founded in London in 1885 and Leeds United in Yorkshire in 1919, over 170 miles (270 km) apart. Men love his football - and women love his style. David Beckham is one of the most popular footballers of all time. This is his story! His lack of bottle coming off in a Champions League Final with Liverpool 0-3 down, then cavorting uninjured with his unearned winners medal after Liverpool had fought back to triumph without him. The presence of a club as reviled as Galatasaray on Denayers CV should not trouble United fans unduly; the lad is a City player, and a Belgian international . They should run out there onto that pitch with no thoughts of money or other distractions: they should emerge onto the field of combat ready and willing to give their all for the Leeds United fans, and especially for the memory of those two lads who never came home. The 71-year-old is regarded as one of the best to ever pull on an England shirt, making more than 1,200 club appearances - including two European Cup wins at Nottingham Forest - and 125 for the Three Lions.. You're totally right about the people seeming most angry about this our younger fanbase. The complete and definitive history of the Whites. It's week 13 of this season's Definitive European Player Power Rankings, and we at HQ would just like to congratulate Liverpool on winning the Premier League. This is Phil Hay's stated opinion and I tend to agree. Leeds fans will not welcome his return; for us, his copybook is blotted beyond any hope of redemption. Denayer has also taken in spells at Glasgow Celtic and Sunderland, whilst winning 8 senior caps for Belgium. and might be the only top-tier club offering him a contract. Kewell, wearing the number 10 shirt,was one of the Leeds United side that emerged into a cauldron of seething hatred as the stricken Whites were forced to play the first leg of a UEFA Cup semi-final against Galatasaray mere hours after the savage murder of two of their supporters. Lovely fans. The thought of the current European champions ending up 'doing a Leeds' - or worse, like Bury - is unthinkable. A possible return for last seasons Everton loanee Matthew Pennington has been mooted, but many Leeds fans would rather see the club look elsewhere though this blogger believes that the coaching of Marcelo Bielsa could bring out the very best in Pennington, a young man of vast potential. George Caulkin - The Times. That is why it is baffling, with just a central midfielder lacking, that we do not really believe not when pressed they can go on and win this title. This is a cultural history of Italian Fascism viewed through the lens of soccer. Why do Leeds United hate Manchester United? I hope it pleases you to know how much grief youve probably caused Kevin and Christophers families by dragging this whole thing up once more. Its not been easy to admire many of the Leeds players lately; with a few notable exceptions, theyve played in a distracted fashion and displayed a distinctly chicken-hearted attitude to the business of playing for the shirt and getting results. I hope he reallyis suitably contrite. Found insideI do not believe that most of the Leeds Lads who flirt with Nazi trappings are had been murdered in Istanbul the night before the Galatasaray match. But really, all that treachery stuff, as applied to a small group of misguided menis just so much nonsense. I highly doubt he's heard about Leeds vs Galatasaray until he's moved here, and even then, throughout his life, and even footballing career, it might not even resonate with other things that life has thrown in his way. Another of those mind-boggled moments this morning, when I saw the picture above. Alioski has been present at tributes whilst hes been at the club. Started in 1994, ToffeeWeb is the longest-running, most comprehensive and up-to-date Everton FC website around with a thriving community of Blues. Its possibly a little uncool to crow about an U-23 victory, even of the most decisive variety, and away from home too. Like many another fan, I was seduced by all of this, but there was a nagging doubt from quite early in his Leeds career. Former Leeds Rhinos captain Stevie Ward had to quit after a series of concussions left him suffering from agonising migraines. In common with so many footballers, Sneijder may not be exactly overburdened with brains. He is not a Leeds United fan and was 8 when Chris and Kevin were murdered. Tagged David Luiz, James Rodriguez. And the ultimate, calculated insult the crass insensitivity of his move to that bestial, feral Istanbul club hated with such good reason by all fans of Leeds United. And he is not refusing to play for us and he is not picking them, it just so happens they are the club wanting him. Ja Morant, Luka Doncic, Jayson Tatum, Jamal Murray, Donovan Mitchell, Trae Young, Michael Porter Jr., Zach LaVine, Devin Booker. In a few years time, nobody will even remember why we have a dislike for Aston Villa, and like many of these rivalries, it will die out quickly, another example of this type of rivalries is the ridiculous rivalry held between Crystal Palace and Brighton, it's the type of rivalry that is really only going to be taken seriously by people that were alive to witness the event that sparked the rivalry. He aint the first, or the last who wants to leave, I suspect. 2021-08-29 13:00:00 Why Do Everton Hate Liverpool? That tends to become obvious only when you see a glaringly obscene example of the real thing only then does it stand out that some dubious acts thus labelled are actually as water unto wine when it really comes down to it. Anywhere-For-A-Fat-Contract himself elected to join that awful club and play for those despicable fans. Rio Ferdinand. Galatasaray. Chalk one item off in my little black book. And then you have the third type of rivalry, the rivalry that we have with Galatasaray, a rivalry that is born out of an event so heinous, it's almost ingrained into the folklore of the football clubs involved. Found insideBarnsley: nowthis is abitof a strange one, because most Leeds fanshave Leeds hate oneteam and one teamonly, and as for the rest, you are merely pimples Ive heard it all before. Is this for real? At the end of the day, all of that is just about football and beside the matter of life, death and justice, football remains very small beer indeed. The Champions League and Europa League return, with Jimbo, James Horncastle, Alvaro Romeo and Julien Laurens on hand to preview Matchday 1. Nothing less will do, its the very least they owe the Leeds supporters everywhere. But, Im sure that the club will see the compelling case for including a, There are no obstacles to the realisation of this excellent idea. We can make sure that the horror of, The only comparable case is of a player who had previously moved on from Leeds, not in the most auspicious of circumstances, before eventually signing for the Istanbul side. Some rivalries are born out of competition, and these are the ones that tend to fade into obscurity the quickest, our rivalry, if you can even call it that, with Aston Villa, born out of one season in the Championship and it culminated in that infamous event at Elland Road, in the whole context of things it really didn't matter that much, even if we had won that game we would have still had to play Derby, in the semi's, and result very likely would have been the same, despite the emotions we felt during that game, the outcome really didn't affect much, and yet, playing Aston Villa for the first time again this season was an event for some people, it was something we all look forward to, because, idk, revenge? by RobAtkinson, Follow Life, Leeds United, the Universe & Everything on WordPress.com. The home side failed to show the most basic respect, not even wearing black armbands, and the Leeds United away support reacted with massive and laudable dignity, turning their backs en masse to the field of play before the match kicked off. Why do Man U Hate Leeds? On Moussa, why do you say he can forget moving in January Ed? Found inside"Packed to the brim with scrupulous research, hard-hitting interviews and black humour, this is the final word on terrace yobbery." FRONT magazine "The real history of soccer violence. Both players received a tonne of abuse on their return to Elland Road the following season. Seeing Harry Kewell in a Galatasaray shirt is the encapsulation of betrayal for Leeds United fans. Any player who had ever been connected with Leeds United should have realised that such a move was the ultimate interrible ideas. Found insideBased on original documents and extensive personal interviews, this account of one woman's extraordinary life is also the story of the end of two powerful dynasties thirty years apart. But the fact remains that there was full awareness somewhere behind this; people seeking to capitalise on hatred and murder. Under the heading other clubs, the figures noted four banning orders linked to Galatasaray fans and one each for Sparta Prague and Zenit St Petersburg. Little wonder that he remains a figure of hatred and contempt among the Elland Road faithful, to this day. The two teams met in another explosive FA Cup semi-final at Hillsborough in 1977. Especially considering nearly every fan doesn't even want him at the club and doesn't think he's good enough. Press J to jump to the feed. I remember in those early days, he scored a sublime narrow-angle volley against Derby County in a game Leeds won 4-3 from being 0-3 down. Yes. In some cases, its even an injustice Alan Smith, for example, made his move against a background of a Leeds United desperate for money (does this sound familiar?) Being a hardcore United supporter, I have to appreciate the fans of both teams who turn up in numbers for every game cheering as loud as possible given the dry spell they had over the years. What is the history behind one of the more remarkable derbies? You can disagree with his decision without abusing him online. It won't demean what he has achieved at Leeds United over the last couple of seasons, but if I'm honest, I probably will lose a little bit of respect for him, everyone knows about the rivalry between us and Galatasaray, and if he can put all of that aside and he still wants to move to the club, while that's his choice, it's certainly not a move that I personally agree with. Its like any defeat knocks the stuffing out It was the incompetent and malicious police who caused the deaths. The Leeds United players who take the field against QPRtonight, 5th April, should be fully aware that today is a date when nothing less than every last drop of blood, sweat and tears will suffice. Do you hate Koch because hes German? If they dont know this, then it should be made abundantly clear to them prior to kick off. Posted by Mark West. Id appeal to anyone who reads this to contact the club and press the case, in the certain knowledge that the club would listen and empathise. Anyone but them. Aware that the game may afford a space for expressing protest, groups may attempt to harness the forces of populist nationalism. This book examines football in 18 countries. Its fine to mourn the deaths of Kevin Speight and Christopher Loftus. host old foes Manchester United this weekend, media bias fed into Leeds fans feelings of hate for Man United. It's not realistic to expect players like him to take on our decades old conflicts for the rest of their careers - I wish players did have that kind of commitment but I'm at peace with the fact that most don't. This evenings match is therefore not about League points or position, its not even about the farcical running of the clubor the inept administration of an incompetent and bumblingFootball League. Not on April the 5th. The players need to join in with that, too. The same was the case in 2000-01, where Leeds didn't get live on the netwrok at all until the quater finals, and I remember Man u vs Anderlecht, their opening game, was the test tranmission for the ITV Sport Channel a year later. The Leicester City striker leads the Premier Eric Cantona. So too, much earlier, had Joe Jordan and Gordon McQueen, along with the less-well remembered examples of Arthur Graham and Peter Barnes in the relatively small collective of former Leeds players who have identified themselves with the Pride of Devon and their repellent supporters. Of course Chris and Kev are already honoured by the plaque on an Elland Road wall nearby. To me, that sums up my feelings about it - it's about rising above the hatred and being the bigger club. His subsequent betrayal of the soul and spirit of Leeds United, by signing for that tawdry outfit from Istanbul, added gross insult to what was nearly a mortal injury. by RobAtkinson, Leeds Fans United in Sympathy as Watford Sack Kewell by RobAtkinson, Leeds Utd Players Take Note: April 5th is NOT Just Any Day By RobAtkinson, No Leeds United Welcome for UK Returnee Harry Judas Kewell by RobAtkinson, Wes Sneijder and His Galatasaray Knives; Vicious, Malicious or Just Stupid? Which Arsenal Players are Muslim? Hernandez may possibly be unaware of the friction between the clubs, thats possible. Its not automatic simply to assume that Wesley Sneidjer a player who, as far as Im aware, has no particular grudge against Leeds United is having some sort of warped go at the club or the fans. I actually kinda like them both. Of course, it may just be scaremongering of the most grotesquely tasteless kind by that section of the media about 95% of it which delights in that attitude where Leeds are concerned. April the 5th is when we rise above it all, in dignity and pride. This timely volume fills a gap in the current literature on sport as the most extensive and incisive collection yet published on issues relating to football around the world. 12 Why do Manchester and Liverpool hate each other? Thats how we commemorate those who died, and thats how well forge the togetherness we need to restore this great club to where it belongs. Leeds United its over to you. England footballing hero Peter Shiltons gambling addiction cost him millions - and nearly ended his marriage.. Thats a kind of evil in itself. Chris and Kevin will never be forgotten, but we don't need to have their memories tied to the kind of hatred and tribalism which led to their deaths in the first place. Watford FC have sacked former Leeds United and Liverpool star Harry Kewell from his post as youth team coach at Vicarage Road, following a poor run of form and the Leeds supporters have reacted on Twitter with varying degrees of not entirely sincere regret. Figuratively speaking, as well as almost literally, they had sold their souls to the Devil. You tell me. However, they proceeded to beat Bologna, Borussia Dortmund and Mallorca to arrange a tense semi-final with Leeds. Sir Alf Ramsey did the same for the Three Lions heroes of 1966 and of course our own Don Revie was unrivalled as he created a team who would run through walls for him, inspired by the steely cry of Keep Fighting. And rightly so. 4y. He asks what is peculiarly French about French football, and what does football tell us about France? Two making the same ridiculous and selfish decision would look a bit too much like taking the piss. Eric Cantona. The reason is because Leeds have a great fan base and are really passionate about their team. Found insideIn April 2000, a large number of Leeds football fans travelled to Istanbul to watch their team play a UEFA Cup match against Galatasaray. Galatasaray Home Providing a contemporary twist on the clubs classic design, the Galatasaray home shirt takes the usual 50-50 split of of the clubs colours and updates it with a blurred effect between the two that runs right down the centre of the shirt, which represents the flame of Galatasaray fans meeting with the team. The Tottenham Hotspur striker has found himself behind Jermain Defoe and Peter Crouch in the pecking order at White Hart Lane and the arrival of Eidur Gudjohnsen could further harm his chances of regular first-team football. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. However, the following season they controversially sold Eric Cantona to Sir Alex Fergusons side Cantona went on to become the catalyst for Man Uniteds revival and dominance in the rest of that decade. I wish them nothing but ill, and their disgrace of a coach too. If it was one of the academy lads or someone who was a fan it would be a bit different. 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